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=Comparisons=
 
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The Takumi Sen doesn't have any close competition from the other shoes I've tested. Its combination of light weight, stiffness, high grip and firm midsole make it a little unusual.
 
The Takumi Sen doesn't have any close competition from the other shoes I've tested. Its combination of light weight, stiffness, high grip and firm midsole make it a little unusual.
==Takumi Sen and Altra One2==
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==Takumi Sen and Altra One==
Comparing the Takumi Sen and [[Altra One2| Altra One<sup>2</sup>]]:
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Comparing the Takumi Sen and [[Altra One]]:
 
* Similarities
 
* Similarities
 
** Both are light weight.
 
** Both are light weight.
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** The Takumi Sen has amazing outsole grip on Asphalt.
 
** The Takumi Sen has amazing outsole grip on Asphalt.
 
** The Takumi Sen outsole will last much longer than the Altra.
 
** The Takumi Sen outsole will last much longer than the Altra.
* Advantage Altra One<sup>2</sup>
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* Advantage Altra One
** The Altra One<sup>2</sup> is more flexible.
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** The Altra One is more flexible.
** The Altra One<sup>2</sup> is zero drop.
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** The Altra One is zero drop.
** The Altra One<sup>2</sup> is softer.
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** The Altra One is softer.
** The Altra One<sup>2</sup> has a much toe box shape (not as good as the Cursoris).
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** The Altra One has a much toe box shape (not as good as the Cursoris).
** The Altra One<sup>2</sup> is generally more comfortable.
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** The Altra One is generally more comfortable.
 
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==Takumi Sen and Mizuno Cursoris==
 
==Takumi Sen and Mizuno Cursoris==

Revision as of 16:21, 27 August 2015

The Adidas Adizero Takumi Sen 2 is a Japanese lightweight racing shoe. It is only recently been introduced to the American market, having been previously only available in Japan, and remains a little tricky to get hold of. The name means "An Artisan of The Highest Order," and the shoe does seem to have an unusual design aesthetic. There is no single part of the shoe that is radically different from any other, but the overall impression is of a shoe from a different culture. (This is a little strange given that Adidas is German, not Japanese.) The midsole and the upper of the Takumi Sen are far stiffer than you'd expect for such a light weight shoe (6.3oz). The outsole provides a remarkably high level of grip on asphalt. (I use The Science of Running Shoes as the basis of how I test running shoes and what you should look for in a running shoe.)

Adidas Takumi Sen top
Adidas Takumi Sen bottom
Adidas Takumi Sen inside
Adidas Takumi Sen outside

1 Cushioning, Running Economy, & Performance

There is scientific evidence that a little cushioning can improve Running Economy, which means it takes less effort to run at the same pace. This shoe does not offer enough cushioning to provide that increase in, so you'll probably be slower than you would be in a slightly more cushioned shoe.

2 Characteristics

  • Why you'd buy it. You're after a light weight minimalist shoe, combined with a firm, inflexible sole and a high level of grip.
  • Cushioning. The Takumi Sen is quite firm, much firmer than shoes like the Saucony Virrata. It's so firm under if there is insufficient cushioning to get the benefits of increased Running Economy. However, if you're a runner that likes a firm midsole the Takumi Sen may work for you
  • Drop. The Takumi Sen midsole is 17mm/22mm for a 5mm drop. There's no noticeable "arch support", and the heel provides a slight cup for stability. However, I found the heel relatively narrow, unlike most shoes that are wider at the base of the heel to provide some stability. This didn't seem to be an issue for running however.
  • Structure. The midsole consists of two different densities of EVA foam, combined with the hard plastic arch support inserts that is Adidas' "torsion system".
  • Flexibility. The Takumi Sen is far less flexible than other shoes in its weight category. If you're looking for a light weight, but stiff soled shoe, then this may be a good option for you.
  • Outsole. The outsole is covered by tiny protrusions that are covered with plastic that is the consistency of sandpaper. This provides a quite remarkable level of grip, and the outsole has the logo of Continental tires, so I assume they're responsible for this novel material. This is a high grip outsole for asphalt and similar surfaces; it is not for trails or dirt.
  • Shape. The Takumi Sen is the classic shape that does not match the human foot, and narrows excessively in the toe box. (I recommend cutting open the toe box of virtually all running shoes, with the exception of a few shoes like some Altra shoes. When you have some worn out shoes, you should try cutting open the toe box. I've found that it's a big improvement, allowing my toes to move naturally and engage for toe off, as well as reducing the possibility of blisters.)
  • Upper. The upper is remarkably thin and completely inflexible. It has good breathability, and its thinness means it dries quite quickly. The padding around the ankle opening is probably adequate, though not overly generous.
  • Tongue. The tongue is very thin and unpadded.
  • Lacing. The flat laces work well and remained tied.
  • Heel counter. The heel counter is far stiffer than any shoe I can recall trying. The edge of the heel counter is quite well defined, but I think it's positioning will mean it shouldn't cut into most runners feet. One oddity is the Adizero logo on the heel counter can only be seen from some angles, which is a fairly cool effect.
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3 Cushioning and Shoes

It's intuitively obvious that the cushioning in a shoe will reduce the impact on your body when running. However, The Science of Running Shoes indicates that the reality is rather more complex. While slight cushioning may reduce the effort needed to run by improving your Running Economy, most scientific research indicates that more cushioning does further improve Running Economy. In addition, cushioning does not generally reduce impact and may actually increase it. This is counterintuitive, but is likely to be due to the way a runners mind and body adapts to softer cushioning. Unfortunately, the scientific evidence is far from complete and it's hard to give clear recommendations. I believe that some runners will prefer more cushioning, while others prefer less, and typically those running further have a fondness for greater cushioning. I also believe that a shoe should be as light as possible, and a shoe should justify its weight with the cushioning it provides. My advice is to decide what level of cushioning you're looking for, and then find the lightest shoes that also fit well and are comfortable.

4 Visualizing the Attributes of the Adidas Takumi Sen

How Adidas Takumi Sen compares showing rearfoot cushioning against the performance penalty of its weight. Upper right is better.
How Adidas Takumi Sen compares showing forefoot cushioning against the performance penalty of its weight. Upper right is better.
How Adidas Takumi Sen compares showing the price against the benefit (cushioning/performance penalty). Upper left is better.
How Adidas Takumi Sen compares showing the loaded drop against the benefit (cushioning/performance penalty). Upper left is better.

5 Comparisons

The Takumi Sen doesn't have any close competition from the other shoes I've tested. Its combination of light weight, stiffness, high grip and firm midsole make it a little unusual.

5.1 Takumi Sen and Altra One

Comparing the Takumi Sen and Altra One:

  • Similarities
    • Both are light weight.
    • Both are expensive, though the poor longevity probably makes the Altra more expensive in the long run.
  • Advantage Takumi Sen
    • The Takumi Sen has amazing outsole grip on Asphalt.
    • The Takumi Sen outsole will last much longer than the Altra.
  • Advantage Altra One
    • The Altra One is more flexible.
    • The Altra One is zero drop.
    • The Altra One is softer.
    • The Altra One has a much toe box shape (not as good as the Cursoris).
    • The Altra One is generally more comfortable.
Adidas Takumi Sen top
Adidas Takumi Sen bottom
Adidas Takumi Sen inside
Adidas Takumi Sen outside
Altra The One 2.5 top
Altra The One 2.5 bottom
Altra The One 2.5 inside
Altra The One 2.5 outside

5.2 Takumi Sen and Mizuno Cursoris

Comparing the Takumi Sen and Mizuno Cursoris:

  • Similarities
    • Both are light weight.
    • Both are hard to get hold of; the Takumi Sen is rare and the Cursoris is discontinued.
  • Advantage Takumi Sen
    • The Takumi Sen has amazing outsole grip on Asphalt.
    • The Takumi Sen outsole will last much longer than the Cursoris.
  • Advantage Mizuno Cursoris
    • The Cursoris is more flexible.
    • The Cursoris is zero drop.
    • The Cursoris is softer.
    • The Cursoris has a much better toe box shape.
    • The Cursoris is generally more comfortable.
    • The Cursoris is often available at a much lower price.
Adidas Takumi Sen top
Adidas Takumi Sen bottom
Adidas Takumi Sen inside
Adidas Takumi Sen outside
Mizuno Wave Runner Cursoris top
Mizuno Wave Runner Cursoris bottom
Mizuno Wave Runner Cursoris inside
Mizuno Wave Runner Cursoris outside

5.3 Takumi Sen and Saucony Hattori

Comparing the Takumi Sen and Saucony Hattori:

  • Similarities
    • Both are light weight, but the Hattori is lighter.
    • Both have a sub-optimal toe box that is not shaped for the human foot.
    • Both have low cushioning, though they have different characteristics: the Takumi Sen has thicker but firmer foam.
    • Both are hard to get hold of; the Takumi Sen is rare and the Hattori is discontinued.
  • Advantage Takumi Sen
    • The Takumi Sen has amazing outsole grip on Asphalt.
    • The Takumi Sen has laces for a better fit (Hattori is available with laces as the Hattori LC, but they are even harder to find).
  • Advantage Saucony Hattori
    • The Hattori is more flexible.
    • The Hattori is zero drop.
    • The Hattori is cheaper (when you can find it).

6 A Comparison with other Recommended Shoes

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If you're looking for "the best of the best" running shoe, here are my top picks. Of course, the answer will depend a little on what you're looking for, so I have recommendations for various categories.

  • Best All Round Shoe. The Altra Escalante is my current all-round favorite. It has plenty of cushioning for its weight, it has a very springy midsole, it lasts well, and it has a shape that's closer to the shape of a human foot than most shoes. It's a great shoe for any runner, including those Starting to run. It's also a fairly easy shoe to find due to its popularity.
  • Best Maximalist Shoe: If you want something massively cushioned, then I'd recommend the Saucony Kinvara 8. It's remarkably light and remarkably cushioned, beating Hoka at their own game.
  • Best Optimal Shoe: For those looking to trade cushioning for speed, the Nike Zoom Streak LT 3 was my top pick, but the latest version (LT 4) falls short of it's predecessor. There are lots of great optimal running shoes, which provide just enough cushioning with light weight and minimal frills, but all have their weak spots. Probably the best option at the moment is the Altra Vanish-R, which offers great cushioning for just over 5oz/150g.
  • Fastest Shoe: If you really want speed, then check out the Nike Vaporfly 4%. It's light, massively cushioned, and has a carbon fiber plate. Nothing comes close, not even the now defunct New Balance RC5000‏‎ or New Balance RC5000v2‏‎. There are a number of caveats; it's really expensive, it's really hard to find, and there's a significant injury risk.
  • Best Minimalist Shoe: Merrell Trail Glove. I recommend the trail glove for road running in spite of the 'trail' moniker. It's not a fast shoe by any means, but it's comfortable and will last well.
  • All Terrain Shoe. For trail running, I've become a fan of Altra, and I think their best shoe is the the Altra Timp, though the Altra Lone Peak is really close.
  • Honorable Mention: It's not really a running shoe, but the Vivobarefoot Ra is comfortable, minimalist and can more or less pass as a dress shoe. I've worn mine to weddings with a suit and they've not looked out of place. You can run in the Ra, but the leather means it doesn't breathe well.

For a more detailed on running shoes see the Recommendations for Best Running Shoes. This table lists the key attributes of What to Look for in Running Shoes. For more detailed information, on the shoes see detailed shoe comparison.

Full Review

Brand ▼ Name Rating Recommended
price
Benefit Weight
(oz)
Penalty
(sec/mile)
Forefoot
Thickness
Heel
Thickness
Loaded Drop
mm
Cushioning Flexibility
Saucony Type A Review Saucony A/A7 Recommended $100 6.4 6.7 12.1 19 22 1 4.3 7
Saucony Type A6 Review Saucony A6 Highly Recommended $100 8.2 6.1 9.5 17 21 4 5.0 7
Saucony Type A8 Review Saucony A8 Highly Recommended $90 7.5 6.2 9.7 19 20 -1 4.7 7
Adidas Adios Boost 2 Review Adidas Adios Worth considering $140 4.7 8.6 13.4 17 27 11 4.0 6
Hoka Bondi 5 Review Hoka Bondi Recommended $150 6.1 11.6 18.1 38 42 5 7.1 2
Hoka Clayton 2 Review Hoka Clayton2 Highly Recommended $150 9.1 8.3 12.9 23 28 1 7.5 5
Hoka Clifton 4 Review Hoka Clifton4 Worth considering $130 7.7 9.3 14.5 30 35 10 7.2 3
ON Cloudflash Review On Cloud Cloudflash Worth considering $180 4.4 8.3 14.6 19 26 7 3.7 6
On Cloudracer Review On Cloud Cloudracer Worth considering $130 5.7 8.2 12.8 19 27 5 4.7 7
ON Cloud X Review On Cloud CloudX Not recommended $140 4.5 8.3 16.3 21 27 7 3.8 7
Mizuno Wave Cruise Review Mizuno Cruise Worth considering $120 6.6 5.9 12.5 17 20 7 3.9 6
Newton Distance IV Review Newton Distance Worth considering $155 7.5 9.1 14.2 26 31 3 6.8 5
Asics Gel DS Racer 10 Review Asics DS Racer Worth considering $110 8.2 7.0 10.9 21 26 6 5.8 5
Altra Duo Review Altra Duo Recommended $130 6.0 8.4 13.1 29 29 1 5.0 5
Mizuno Wave Ekiden 8 Review Mizuno Ekiden Worth considering $115 5.7 5.7 14.6 13 18 6 3.2 8
Saucony Endorphin 2 Review Saucony Endorphin 2 Worth considering $115 8.0 5.1 9.6 15 13 -1 4.1 8
Adidas Energy Boost Review Adidas Energy Worth considering $160 7.2 10.0 15.6 20 30 7 7.2 5
Altra Escalante Review Altra Escalante Best of the Best $130 9.1 8.7 13.5 28 25 -1 7.9 6
Altra Escalante 1.5 Review Altra Escalante 1.5 Best of the Best $130 8.2 9.0 14.0 26 27 -1 7.4 7
Saucony Fastwitch Review Saucony Fastwitch Highly Recommended $90 9.5 7.1 11.1 20 22 4 6.8 7
Topo Fli-Lyte 2 Review Topo Fli-Lyte2 Highly Recommended $100 6.7 9.1 14.2 24 26 3 6.1 5
Reebok Floatride Run Review Reebok Floatride Worth considering $150 7.7 9.6 14.9 28 34 10 7.4 5
Saucony Freedom Review Saucony Freedom Recommended $160 5.4 10.7 16.6 25 29 3 5.8 6
Skechers GORun 4 Review Skechers GORun Not recommended $100 6.1 7.5 11.7 15 23 3 4.5 7
Skechers GOrun Ultra 2 Review Skechers GRU Worth considering $90 7.5 10.0 15.6 28 34 8 7.5 4
Asics GT 2000 Review Asics GT 2000 Not recommended $120 4.8 11.2 17.4 28 35 5 5.4 2
New Balance Hanzo S Review New Balance Hanzo Worth considering $110 7.6 6.9 10.7 21 19 2 5.2 5
Hoka Hupana Review Hoka Hupana Recommended $115 6.1 8.9 13.9 31 36 7 5.4 4
Asics Gel Hyper Speed 7 Review Asics Hyper Speed Highly Recommended $75 10.9 6.3 9.8 22 26 5 6.8 6
Altra Instinct 4.0 Review Altra Instinct 4.0 Worth considering $120 6.0 9.8 15.3 29 25 -1 5.9 5
Asics Tarther Kainos 3 Review Asics Kainos Worth considering $130 10.0 6.9 10.7 17 27 9 6.8 6
Altra King MT 1.5 Review Altra King MT Recommended $140 7.5 10.7 16.7 19 21 3 8.0 5
Saucony Kinvara 8 Review Saucony Kinvara 8 Best of the Best $110 9.3 8.6 13.4 26 31 3 8.0 5
Altra Lone Peak 3.5 Review Altra Lone Peak Highly Recommended $120 4.2 11.4 17.7 24 25 4 4.8 5
Nike Zoom Streak LT 3 Review Nike LT3 Best of the Best $80 9.8 5.4 8.4 16 21 5 5.3 7
Nike Zoom Streak LT 4 Review Nike LT4 Recommended $90 8.5 5.5 8.5 15 21 3 4.6 6
Nike LunarSpider R5 Review Nike LunarSpider Recommended $125 6.9 6.7 10.4 17 21 3 4.6 6
Hoka Mafate Speed Review Hoka Mafate Best of the Best $170 7.6 11.9 18.5 39 40 4 9.0 1
Pearl Izumi EM Road N0 v2 Review Pearl N0 Highly Recommended $100 7.9 6.5 10.1 14 20 4 5.2 8
Saucony Nomad Review Saucony Nomad Worth considering $110 4.3 10.5 17.2 25 27 2 4.5 4
Hoka Odyssey Review Hoka Odyssey Highly Recommended $130 8.5 9.4 14.6 37 45 5 8.0 3
Altra Olympus 2.5 Review Altra Olympus Highly Recommended $150 4.6 11.8 18.4 35 34 0 5.4 6
Altra One 3.0 Review Altra One Recommended $100 6.1 8.8 13.7 23 23 0 5.4 6
Altra Paradigm 4.0 Review Altra Paradigm Highly Recommended $150 5.3 11.0 17.1 28 30 5 5.8 8
Asics Piranha SP 5 Review Asics Piranha Recommended $100 10.1 4.2 6.5 11 15 3 4.2 9
Brooks PureFlow 5 Review Brooks PureFlow Worth considering $110 6.0 9.7 15.1 26 29 5 5.8 8
Salming Race Review Salming Race Worth considering $130 6.9 6.5 10.1 16 19 4 4.5 6
Altra Escalante Racer Review Altra Racer Highly Recommended $140 6.6 7.6 11.8 24 26 6 5.0 8
New Balance RC1600 v2 Review New Balance RC1600 Highly Recommended $110 8.8 5.6 8.7 15 21 5 4.9 8
New Balance RC5000v2 Review New Balance RC5000v2 Best of the Best $125 14.2 4.0 6.2 13 21 6 5.7 7
Skechers GoRun Ride 3 Review Skechers Ride Worth considering $85 5.9 8.5 13.2 18 28 6 5.0 8
Nike RN Distance 2 Review Nike RNDist2 Worth considering $120 8.0 9.2 14.3 25 28 4 7.4 7
Inov-8 RoadXTreme 220 Review Inov-8 RXT-220 Worth considering $120 5.2 8.0 18.2 14 17 3 4.2 8
Salomon Sense Ride Review Salomon Sense Worth considering $120 8.5 10.0 15.6 26 29 6 8.5 0
Altra Solstice Review Altra Solstice Highly Recommended $90 7.1 8.1 12.5 23 25 0 5.7 5
Topo ST-2 Review Topo ST-2 Highly Recommended $90 8.2 7.3 11.4 20 18 0 6.0 7
Hoka Stinson Lite Review Hoka Stinson Highly Recommended $160 7.3 11.6 18.1 35 40 6 8.5 0
Altra Superior Altra Superior Highly Recommended $110 5.6 9.9 15.5 21 25 -1 5.5 4
Adidas Takumi Sen 3 Review Adidas Takumi Sen 3 Highly Recommended $160 7.7 6.6 10.2 17 21 4 5.1 5
Topo Terraventure Topo Terraventure Review Pending $110 2.6 10.8 27.5 24 24 0 2.8 10
Altra Timp Review Altra Timp Best of the Best $130 3.7 11.6 18.1 30 31 -1 4.3 6
Altra Torin 2.0 Review Altra Torin Worth considering $125 3.4 9.6 20.7 30 25 1 3.3 9
Altra Torin 3.5 Review Altra Torin 3.5 Worth considering $125 5.8 9.3 14.5 27 28 0 5.4 8
Hoka Tracer Review Hoka Tracer Recommended $130 7.2 7.4 11.5 21 24 2 5.3 5
Merrell Trail Glove 4 Review Merrell Trail Glove 4 Best of the Best $100 3.4 8.4 23.8 13 13 0 2.8 10
Topo Tribute Review Topo Tribute Recommended $100 5.9 7.3 11.4 20 18 -1 4.3 6
Mizuno Wave Universe 5 Review Mizuno Universe Highly Recommended $125 10.7 3.1 10.6 9 12 1 3.3 9
Altra Vanish-R Review Altra Vanish-R Recommended $100 16.1 5.3 8.2 19 21 4 8.5 6
Merrell Vapor Glove 3 Review Merrell Vapor Glove 3 Highly Recommended $85 2.1 6.1 27.6 6 5 0 1.3 10
Nike Vaporfly 4% Review Nike Vaporfly Best of the Best $250 10.4 7.2 11.2 25 37 8 7.5 2
New Balance Vazee Pace Review New Balance Vazee Pace Worth considering $110 6.0 8.6 13.4 18 24 6 5.2 5
Asics TartherZeal 3 Review Asics Zeal Worth considering $140 10.9 6.3 9.8 17 27 9 6.8 6
Saucony Zealot 3 Review Saucony Zealot3 Recommended $130 8.9 9.5 14.8 29 32 4 8.5 6
Nike Zoom Fly Review Nike Zoom Fly Worth considering $150 8.3 8.7 13.5 29 36 8 7.2 3

It's not a running shoe, but I love the Hoka Tor Ultra hiking boot and I've tested the Altra Lone Peak Boot, the Hoka Tor Speed 2, and the Inov-8 Roclite 325 hiking boots
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