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To better understand the various [[A Comparison of Marathon Training Plans| Marathon Training Plans]], I have created a survey that is currently accepting responses.
=The Survey=
To respond to the survey, please go to [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/19UG0y-o09TW3LlTe1PqwMhJtjQwqIgBTKz0helPvffY/viewform Google Forms Marathon Survey].
* Most of the questions are optional, so leave blank those that don't apply. For instance, if this is your first marathon, leave the Personal Best blank.
* For marathon times, please use H:MM rather than H:MM:SS or "X Hours". (I have code to parse the data, but the less ambiguity the better.
* For long run distances, you can enter just the distance in miles, or put "N Km" if you're used to Kilometers.
=The Results=
We need a lot more data, but here are some initial results.
{| class="wikitable"
! style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''Row Labels'''
! style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''Count'''
! style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''% Responses'''
! style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''Average of Longest Run'''
! style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''Average of
Improvement Over
Expected (negative
is better)'''
! style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''Average of
Improvement
over Personal
Best'''
! style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''Injured?'''
! style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''Overtrained?'''
! style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''HitTheWall?'''
! style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''DNF?'''
! style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''Average Rating (out of 5)'''
|-
| Daniels
| 15
| 7.4%
| style="background-color: #FFEB84;" |21.6
| style="background-color: #FA8871;" |8
| style="background-color: #7EC57C;" |-18
| style="background-color: #F4E883;" |20%
| style="background-color: #B9D780;" |7%
| style="background-color: #CBDC81;" |13%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #CBDC81;" |4.13
|-
| FIRST
| 23
| 11.4%
| style="background-color: #FCBC7A;" |20.7
| style="background-color: #F8696B;" |10
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |-21
| style="background-color: #FDC27D;" |30%
| style="background-color: #FFD981;" |17%
| style="background-color: #FCAB78;" |35%
| style="background-color: #F8696B;" |4%
| style="background-color: #F98470;" |3.61
|-
| Galloway
| 5
| 2.5%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |24.0
| style="background-color: #F6E883;" |2
| style="background-color: #FB9F76;" |13
| style="background-color: #F4E883;" |20%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #FFEB84;" |20%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #F9826F;" |3.60
|-
| Hanson
| 14
| 6.9%
| style="background-color: #F8696B;" |19.1
| style="background-color: #F9796E;" |9
| style="background-color: #FCEA83;" |-4
| style="background-color: #FECB7E;" |29%
| style="background-color: #FFE483;" |14%
| style="background-color: #FEC67D;" |29%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #FBAC78;" |3.77
|-
| Higdon
| 36
| 17.8%
| style="background-color: #FBA576;" |20.3
| style="background-color: #FCB079;" |6
| style="background-color: #FA7E6F;" |20
| style="background-color: #FDB57A;" |33%
| style="background-color: #F3E783;" |11%
| style="background-color: #FECA7E;" |28%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #E0E383;" |4.09
|-
| Lydiard
| 2
| 1.0%
| style="background-color: #E5E483;" |22.0
| style="background-color: #E5E382;" |-1
| style="background-color: #FFDC82;" |0
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #FEE683;" |4.00
|-
| Other
| 38
| 18.8%
| style="background-color: #FCBB7A;" |20.7
| style="background-color: #FCEA83;" |2
| style="background-color: #F4E783;" |-4
| style="background-color: #FCEA83;" |21%
| style="background-color: #FFDF82;" |16%
| style="background-color: #F2E783;" |18%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #E4E383;" |4.08
|-
| Personal
| 25
| 12.4%
| style="background-color: #B5D680;" |22.7
| style="background-color: #FFE683;" |3
| style="background-color: #F8696B;" |25
| style="background-color: #BAD780;" |12%
| style="background-color: #CBDC81;" |8%
| style="background-color: #FFEB84;" |20%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |4.36
|-
| Pfitzinger
| 38
| 18.8%
| style="background-color: #D3DF82;" |22.3
| style="background-color: #E6E382;" |0
| style="background-color: #9DCE7E;" |-14
| style="background-color: #9CCE7E;" |8%
| style="background-color: #FFDF82;" |16%
| style="background-color: #DEE182;" |16%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #CCDD82;" |4.13
|-
| Runners World
| 2
| 1.0%
|
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |-16
|
| style="background-color: #F8696B;" |50%
| style="background-color: #F8696B;" |50%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #F8696B;" |3.50
|-
| Web Site
| 4
| 2.0%
| style="background-color: #FAEA84;" |21.7
| style="background-color: #E3E382;" |-1
| style="background-color: #FFEB84;" |-3
| style="background-color: #F8696B;" |50%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #F8696B;" |50%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #FEE683;" |4.00
|-
| style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''Grand Total'''
| style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''202'''
| style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''100.0%'''
| style="background-color: #FED980;" |'''21.3'''
| style="background-color: #FED280;" |'''4'''
| style="background-color: #FFE683;" |'''-2'''
| style="background-color: #FFEA84;" |'''22%'''
| style="background-color: #FFE884;" |'''13%'''
| style="background-color: #FFE283;" |'''22%'''
| style="background-color: #FFDD82;" |'''0%'''
| style="background-color: #F8E984;" |'''4.04'''
|}
Some observations and notes:
* We have too few responses to draw firm conclusions, so apply caution to these results.
* My analysis is in the early stages, so results may change as I iron out bugs.
* Long runs are capped at 31 miles, so a runner that does a 100-mile long run does not skew the results too much.
* [[Hanson]] has the shortest [[Long Run]]s, but the average is still quite a bit longer than the 16 miles they recommend.
* A lot of respondents do their own plan ("Personal") and there are a good number where there are only a few responses for a plan, so they've been put under "other".
* The number of runners that hit the wall is quit high.
* The low number of DNFs suggests runners who DNF are not responding.
* Almost everyone likes there plan; there are 10 responders who put 1 star against their plan.
=The Survey=
To respond to the survey, please go to [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/19UG0y-o09TW3LlTe1PqwMhJtjQwqIgBTKz0helPvffY/viewform Google Forms Marathon Survey].
* Most of the questions are optional, so leave blank those that don't apply. For instance, if this is your first marathon, leave the Personal Best blank.
* For marathon times, please use H:MM rather than H:MM:SS or "X Hours". (I have code to parse the data, but the less ambiguity the better.
* For long run distances, you can enter just the distance in miles, or put "N Km" if you're used to Kilometers.
=The Results=
We need a lot more data, but here are some initial results.
{| class="wikitable"
! style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''Row Labels'''
! style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''Count'''
! style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''% Responses'''
! style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''Average of Longest Run'''
! style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''Average of
Improvement Over
Expected (negative
is better)'''
! style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''Average of
Improvement
over Personal
Best'''
! style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''Injured?'''
! style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''Overtrained?'''
! style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''HitTheWall?'''
! style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''DNF?'''
! style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''Average Rating (out of 5)'''
|-
| Daniels
| 15
| 7.4%
| style="background-color: #FFEB84;" |21.6
| style="background-color: #FA8871;" |8
| style="background-color: #7EC57C;" |-18
| style="background-color: #F4E883;" |20%
| style="background-color: #B9D780;" |7%
| style="background-color: #CBDC81;" |13%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #CBDC81;" |4.13
|-
| FIRST
| 23
| 11.4%
| style="background-color: #FCBC7A;" |20.7
| style="background-color: #F8696B;" |10
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |-21
| style="background-color: #FDC27D;" |30%
| style="background-color: #FFD981;" |17%
| style="background-color: #FCAB78;" |35%
| style="background-color: #F8696B;" |4%
| style="background-color: #F98470;" |3.61
|-
| Galloway
| 5
| 2.5%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |24.0
| style="background-color: #F6E883;" |2
| style="background-color: #FB9F76;" |13
| style="background-color: #F4E883;" |20%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #FFEB84;" |20%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #F9826F;" |3.60
|-
| Hanson
| 14
| 6.9%
| style="background-color: #F8696B;" |19.1
| style="background-color: #F9796E;" |9
| style="background-color: #FCEA83;" |-4
| style="background-color: #FECB7E;" |29%
| style="background-color: #FFE483;" |14%
| style="background-color: #FEC67D;" |29%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #FBAC78;" |3.77
|-
| Higdon
| 36
| 17.8%
| style="background-color: #FBA576;" |20.3
| style="background-color: #FCB079;" |6
| style="background-color: #FA7E6F;" |20
| style="background-color: #FDB57A;" |33%
| style="background-color: #F3E783;" |11%
| style="background-color: #FECA7E;" |28%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #E0E383;" |4.09
|-
| Lydiard
| 2
| 1.0%
| style="background-color: #E5E483;" |22.0
| style="background-color: #E5E382;" |-1
| style="background-color: #FFDC82;" |0
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #FEE683;" |4.00
|-
| Other
| 38
| 18.8%
| style="background-color: #FCBB7A;" |20.7
| style="background-color: #FCEA83;" |2
| style="background-color: #F4E783;" |-4
| style="background-color: #FCEA83;" |21%
| style="background-color: #FFDF82;" |16%
| style="background-color: #F2E783;" |18%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #E4E383;" |4.08
|-
| Personal
| 25
| 12.4%
| style="background-color: #B5D680;" |22.7
| style="background-color: #FFE683;" |3
| style="background-color: #F8696B;" |25
| style="background-color: #BAD780;" |12%
| style="background-color: #CBDC81;" |8%
| style="background-color: #FFEB84;" |20%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |4.36
|-
| Pfitzinger
| 38
| 18.8%
| style="background-color: #D3DF82;" |22.3
| style="background-color: #E6E382;" |0
| style="background-color: #9DCE7E;" |-14
| style="background-color: #9CCE7E;" |8%
| style="background-color: #FFDF82;" |16%
| style="background-color: #DEE182;" |16%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #CCDD82;" |4.13
|-
| Runners World
| 2
| 1.0%
|
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |-16
|
| style="background-color: #F8696B;" |50%
| style="background-color: #F8696B;" |50%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #F8696B;" |3.50
|-
| Web Site
| 4
| 2.0%
| style="background-color: #FAEA84;" |21.7
| style="background-color: #E3E382;" |-1
| style="background-color: #FFEB84;" |-3
| style="background-color: #F8696B;" |50%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #F8696B;" |50%
| style="background-color: #63BE7B;" |0%
| style="background-color: #FEE683;" |4.00
|-
| style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''Grand Total'''
| style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''202'''
| style="background-color: #DDEBF7;" |'''100.0%'''
| style="background-color: #FED980;" |'''21.3'''
| style="background-color: #FED280;" |'''4'''
| style="background-color: #FFE683;" |'''-2'''
| style="background-color: #FFEA84;" |'''22%'''
| style="background-color: #FFE884;" |'''13%'''
| style="background-color: #FFE283;" |'''22%'''
| style="background-color: #FFDD82;" |'''0%'''
| style="background-color: #F8E984;" |'''4.04'''
|}
Some observations and notes:
* We have too few responses to draw firm conclusions, so apply caution to these results.
* My analysis is in the early stages, so results may change as I iron out bugs.
* Long runs are capped at 31 miles, so a runner that does a 100-mile long run does not skew the results too much.
* [[Hanson]] has the shortest [[Long Run]]s, but the average is still quite a bit longer than the 16 miles they recommend.
* A lot of respondents do their own plan ("Personal") and there are a good number where there are only a few responses for a plan, so they've been put under "other".
* The number of runners that hit the wall is quit high.
* The low number of DNFs suggests runners who DNF are not responding.
* Almost everyone likes there plan; there are 10 responders who put 1 star against their plan.
