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[[File:Lydiard.jpg|right|thumb|200px|[http://www.amazon.com/dp/1841260266 Running With Lydiard].]]
Arthur Lydiard coached many elite runners in the 1960's, and his marathon training program dates from that period. Lydiard is famous for requiring his runners to run 100 miles per week, which he felt was an optimal distance. He didn't choose the 100 miles/week as a round number, as he was working in Kilometers, so he actually prescribed 160 Km/week. While this may seem like a lot of miles, in reality he required a lot more from his athletes. These runners were covering 100 miles/week at "near best aerobic effort", plus another 100 miles/week of easy running. Even his athletes with the lowest mileage were covering about 150 miles/week. Lydiard himself experimented with running between 50 and 300+ miles/week at what he described as "close to my best aerobic effort". Of course, these athletes are all elites, but that's the focus of the Lydiard plan. The plan seems remarkably tough to me, even for elites. Lydiard is often thought of as focusing on Long Slow Distance (LSD), which is not really the case. Lydiard requires a lot of hard running, but he does recommend adding in as much slower running as is possible. (This article should be read in conjunction with my [[A Comparison of Marathon Training Plans| Comparison of Marathon Training Plans]].)
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=Sample Weeks=
To give you a sense of how tough the Lydiard plan is, here's a week from the experienced plan:
* Monday: 15-20x 200 meter intervals
* Tuesday: Run at "near best aerobic effort" for 90 minutes
* Wednesday: A 5K time trial
* Thursday: 60 minutes [[Fartlek]]
* Friday: 10x 100meter intervals
* Saturday: 10K Time Trial
* Sunday: Run at "near best aerobic effort" for 2 hours or more
The beginner's plan is also pretty tough:
* Monday: 5K time trial
* Tuesday: Run at "near best aerobic effort" for 90 minutes
* Wednesday: 10K time trial
* Thursday: Run at "near best aerobic effort" for 90 minutes
* Friday: 45 minutes [[Fartlek]]
* Sunday: Run at "near best aerobic effort" for 2.5 hours or more
* Sunday: Jogging for 1 hour
In addition, athletes should run as much slow paced running as possible to increase overall mileage.
=Marathon Plan Analysis=
* Key Characteristics
** The plan has three [[Long Run]]s per week, with lots of mileage in between.
** [[Long Run]]s are based on time, not distance, though he does throw in a full marathon distance time trial.
** Lydiard gives almost no indication of pace, so it's hard to know exactly what he means by "Long Aerobic Running", or "Jogging".
** In addition to a lot of mileage, the plans require quite a bit of speed work. The beginner plan has time trials of 2K, 3K and 5K, [[Fartlek]], and informal intervals of 200 meters. The experienced plan includes time trials of 5K, 10K, 20K, 25K, and full marathon, plus [[Fartlek]] and interval training.
* [[Overtraining]] risk
** The Lydiard plan seems to have a high risk of Overtraining. He is targeting elite runners, and either they are able to handle the stress or maybe it's simply a case that his plan burns out all but the toughest.
* Pros
** Lydiard has a great reputation for training elite runners.
** Time based workouts may suit some runners.
* Cons
** The plans seem brutally tough, even by elite standards.
** The time-based workouts mean that faster runner have to cover more distance.
** Rather strangely, the beginner plan has longer long runs than the experienced plan.
** It's hard to know what pace to run the workouts at; I've spent time trying to research this and come up with only a reasonable guess.
** Even the Lydiard plan seems suited for an elite runner moving from shorter distances than what most people think of as a beginner.
* {{MarathonGoodFor}}:
** {{MarathonBeginner}}: 0. This plan is far too tough; Look at [[Galloway]] or [[Higdon]] instead.
** {{MarathonNovice}}: 0. The high mileage and extensive speedwork are probably too much.
** {{MarathonRinger}}: 2. You need to be more than the usual 'ringer' and be elite or sub-elite at shorter distances to consider this. Even then, I'd suggest something else initially.
** {{MarathonMaintenance}}: 0. For a runner just trying to maintain their marathon skills this would be far too much effort.
** {{MarathonImprover}}: 1. Unless you are improving from at least a sub-elite level, I doubt if you'd cope with this level of training.
** {{MarathonEnthusiast}}: 2. Consider this plan carefully, as it could work if you're used to a very high training load.
** {{MarathonElite}}: 3. Lydiard's plan has worked for some of the great runners, and you seem to be the target audience. I have doubts about the success rate for this plan, but if you can survive, it could produce great results. (Of course, there's no way of knowing if Lydiard's athletes would have done better with another approach.)
** '''Limited Training Time''': 0. You have to dedicate a lot of your life to this plan.
** '''Traditionalist''': 1. While this plan has been around for a long time, I don't think of it as a traditional plan.
** '''Triathlete/Multisport''': 0. I can't see you getting much time for sleep, let alone for alternative sport training.
** '''Prior [[Overtraining]]''': 0. I see a very high risk of Overtraining with Lydiard.
** '''Sub 3:00''': 3. I think the Lydiard is only suitable for sub-3 runners.
** '''3:00-4:30''': 1. To use the Lydiard plans I think you need to be a strong, fast runner.
** '''4:30-5:30''': 0. No.
** '''5:30+''': 0. No.
** '''Speedwork'''. You have to be prepared to do a lot of speed work with this plan
=The Long Runs=
The tables below focus only on the longest run of the week, and Lydiard more than other plans requires long runs on other days. Because Lydiard uses time rather than distance, I've made some pace assumptions in order to analyze the runs. I've used Lydiard's comments that the pace should be 70-99% of aerobic capacity as a guide; for a 3 hour marathon runner I assumed "Long Aerobic Running" is 7 min/mile, and jogging is 8 min/mile, and for a 4 hour marathon runner I've used 8 min/mile and 9 min/mile.
{{:Lydiard-LongRuns}}
{{:Comparison of marathon training plans-suitability}}
[[Category:Training]]
[[Category:Marathon]]
[[File:Lydiard.jpg|right|thumb|200px|[http://www.amazon.com/dp/1841260266 Running With Lydiard].]]
Arthur Lydiard coached many elite runners in the 1960's, and his marathon training program dates from that period. Lydiard is famous for requiring his runners to run 100 miles per week, which he felt was an optimal distance. He didn't choose the 100 miles/week as a round number, as he was working in Kilometers, so he actually prescribed 160 Km/week. While this may seem like a lot of miles, in reality he required a lot more from his athletes. These runners were covering 100 miles/week at "near best aerobic effort", plus another 100 miles/week of easy running. Even his athletes with the lowest mileage were covering about 150 miles/week. Lydiard himself experimented with running between 50 and 300+ miles/week at what he described as "close to my best aerobic effort". Of course, these athletes are all elites, but that's the focus of the Lydiard plan. The plan seems remarkably tough to me, even for elites. Lydiard is often thought of as focusing on Long Slow Distance (LSD), which is not really the case. Lydiard requires a lot of hard running, but he does recommend adding in as much slower running as is possible. (This article should be read in conjunction with my [[A Comparison of Marathon Training Plans| Comparison of Marathon Training Plans]].)
{{BuyAmazon|AZID=1841260266 |AZN=Running With Lydiard }}
=Sample Weeks=
To give you a sense of how tough the Lydiard plan is, here's a week from the experienced plan:
* Monday: 15-20x 200 meter intervals
* Tuesday: Run at "near best aerobic effort" for 90 minutes
* Wednesday: A 5K time trial
* Thursday: 60 minutes [[Fartlek]]
* Friday: 10x 100meter intervals
* Saturday: 10K Time Trial
* Sunday: Run at "near best aerobic effort" for 2 hours or more
The beginner's plan is also pretty tough:
* Monday: 5K time trial
* Tuesday: Run at "near best aerobic effort" for 90 minutes
* Wednesday: 10K time trial
* Thursday: Run at "near best aerobic effort" for 90 minutes
* Friday: 45 minutes [[Fartlek]]
* Sunday: Run at "near best aerobic effort" for 2.5 hours or more
* Sunday: Jogging for 1 hour
In addition, athletes should run as much slow paced running as possible to increase overall mileage.
=Marathon Plan Analysis=
* Key Characteristics
** The plan has three [[Long Run]]s per week, with lots of mileage in between.
** [[Long Run]]s are based on time, not distance, though he does throw in a full marathon distance time trial.
** Lydiard gives almost no indication of pace, so it's hard to know exactly what he means by "Long Aerobic Running", or "Jogging".
** In addition to a lot of mileage, the plans require quite a bit of speed work. The beginner plan has time trials of 2K, 3K and 5K, [[Fartlek]], and informal intervals of 200 meters. The experienced plan includes time trials of 5K, 10K, 20K, 25K, and full marathon, plus [[Fartlek]] and interval training.
* [[Overtraining]] risk
** The Lydiard plan seems to have a high risk of Overtraining. He is targeting elite runners, and either they are able to handle the stress or maybe it's simply a case that his plan burns out all but the toughest.
* Pros
** Lydiard has a great reputation for training elite runners.
** Time based workouts may suit some runners.
* Cons
** The plans seem brutally tough, even by elite standards.
** The time-based workouts mean that faster runner have to cover more distance.
** Rather strangely, the beginner plan has longer long runs than the experienced plan.
** It's hard to know what pace to run the workouts at; I've spent time trying to research this and come up with only a reasonable guess.
** Even the Lydiard plan seems suited for an elite runner moving from shorter distances than what most people think of as a beginner.
* {{MarathonGoodFor}}:
** {{MarathonBeginner}}: 0. This plan is far too tough; Look at [[Galloway]] or [[Higdon]] instead.
** {{MarathonNovice}}: 0. The high mileage and extensive speedwork are probably too much.
** {{MarathonRinger}}: 2. You need to be more than the usual 'ringer' and be elite or sub-elite at shorter distances to consider this. Even then, I'd suggest something else initially.
** {{MarathonMaintenance}}: 0. For a runner just trying to maintain their marathon skills this would be far too much effort.
** {{MarathonImprover}}: 1. Unless you are improving from at least a sub-elite level, I doubt if you'd cope with this level of training.
** {{MarathonEnthusiast}}: 2. Consider this plan carefully, as it could work if you're used to a very high training load.
** {{MarathonElite}}: 3. Lydiard's plan has worked for some of the great runners, and you seem to be the target audience. I have doubts about the success rate for this plan, but if you can survive, it could produce great results. (Of course, there's no way of knowing if Lydiard's athletes would have done better with another approach.)
** '''Limited Training Time''': 0. You have to dedicate a lot of your life to this plan.
** '''Traditionalist''': 1. While this plan has been around for a long time, I don't think of it as a traditional plan.
** '''Triathlete/Multisport''': 0. I can't see you getting much time for sleep, let alone for alternative sport training.
** '''Prior [[Overtraining]]''': 0. I see a very high risk of Overtraining with Lydiard.
** '''Sub 3:00''': 3. I think the Lydiard is only suitable for sub-3 runners.
** '''3:00-4:30''': 1. To use the Lydiard plans I think you need to be a strong, fast runner.
** '''4:30-5:30''': 0. No.
** '''5:30+''': 0. No.
** '''Speedwork'''. You have to be prepared to do a lot of speed work with this plan
=The Long Runs=
The tables below focus only on the longest run of the week, and Lydiard more than other plans requires long runs on other days. Because Lydiard uses time rather than distance, I've made some pace assumptions in order to analyze the runs. I've used Lydiard's comments that the pace should be 70-99% of aerobic capacity as a guide; for a 3 hour marathon runner I assumed "Long Aerobic Running" is 7 min/mile, and jogging is 8 min/mile, and for a 4 hour marathon runner I've used 8 min/mile and 9 min/mile.
{{:Lydiard-LongRuns}}
{{:Comparison of marathon training plans-suitability}}
[[Category:Training]]
[[Category:Marathon]]
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