Changes

Hoka Mafate

6,930 bytes added, 16:54, 12 June 2018
m
comment: batch update
{{DISPLAYTITLE:Hoka Mafate Speed Review}}
The Previous versions of the Mafate Speed is have been the most cushioned shoe in the heaviest[[Hoka Shoe Review| Hoka range]], thickest and least flexible as well as including an aggressive outsole for grip on soft trails. With the latest iteration of the Hoka range the cushioning of the HokasMafate, Stinson, and probably any running shoe madeBondi has become closer. Even when youThe Mafate still has the most heel cushioning, but it're used s so close to running in other Hoka shoes, the Mafate seems like Bondi that it's a huge beasthard to tell, even when wearing one on each foot. I don't think The forefoot cushioning of the extra thickness and weight Stinson Lite is worth slightly greater than the Mafate, but again it's close. Before, and I prefer you might select the Mafate to get the [[Hoka Clifton]] which has with the best weight to most cushioning ratio or possible, but now the [[Hoka Bondi]] that Mafate is nearly best selected if you need the aggressive outsole. '''Update''': I rated the original Mafate Speed reviewed here as well cushioned. "The Best of the Best", but it's been replaced by the Mafate has an aggressive outsoleSpeed 2, which works okay on road surfaces, but lacks the lugs may wear quicklyRMAT outsole. HoweverI've not tested the Mafate Speed 2, if you want and probably won't. Cutting open the most cushioned toe box of a trail shoeworks in many conditions, with an aggressive outsole for soft surfacesbut is less than ideal, the Mafate is well worth consideringso I'm tending to run trails in [[Altra]] shoes. {{H:WhatToLookForInShoes}}
{| class="wikitable"
|- valign="top"
|[[File:Hoka-Mafate-Speed-top.jpg|none|thumb|250px|Hoka Mafate Speed top]]
|[[File:Hoka-Mafate-Speed-bottom.jpg|none|thumb|250px|Hoka Mafate Speed bottom]]
|- valign="top"
|[[File:Hoka-Mafate-Speed-inside.jpg|none|thumb|250px|Hoka Mafate Speed inside]]
|[[File:Hoka-Mafate-Speed-outside.jpg|none|thumb|250px|Hoka Mafate Speed outside]]
|}
=Characteristics=
* '''Why you'd buy it'''. You're after a [[Maximalist]] shoe with an aggressive outsole.
* '''Cushioning'''. The Mafate has the high level of cushioning that made Hoka popular. The cushioning is similar to the latest versions of the [[Hoka Bondi]] and the [[Hoka Stinson]].
* '''Drop'''. Hoka claim the Mafate is a 4mm drop, but I measured it as only 1mm. I also measured the midsole as thicker than Hoka claim, so maybe they don't include the lugs in their measurements. The Mafate has a less abrupt taper at the very front of the shoe than the Bondi, but not as gentle as the Altra Olympus. The very rear of the shoe is cut away slightly to create a rocker shape that's almost identical to the Bondi. The midsole wraps around the lower part of the foot for additional stability, offsetting some of the problems of a thick sole creating a stilt like instability, which is especially a problem with a sole as thick as this.
* '''Structure'''. This shoe is made of a single type of foam. (There is mention of using [[RMAT]] foam in the midsole, but I think that the RMAT is mostly limited to the outsole.)
* '''Flexibility'''. The Mafate has no real flexibility, but it's so thick it deforms a little. It's the least flexible shoe I've come across, and similar to a hiking boot.
* '''Outsole'''. The Mafate has aggressive lugs for grip on soft surfaces, and some of these are made of hard, durable rubber. However, most of the outsole is made of the softer [[RMAT]] foam, and I'm not sure how well this will wear. In the pictures above, the hard rubber is black and the RMAT is red. You can see that Hoka were concerned about the RMAT wearing as they added the harder rubber in the highest abrasion areas. The Mafate outsole is reasonably happy on roads, and the softness of the RMAT lugs is sticky, so it has great grip on most surfaces.
* '''Shape'''. The Mafate has the typical Hoka shape, which includes a horribly constricted toe box. In fact, the Mafate seems a little worse than most Hokas. The Hoka toe box tends to cause a distinctive pattern of blisters, so it's critical to [[Shoe Modifications| cut open the toe box of any Hokas]]. {{H:TryCuttingShoes}}
* '''Upper'''. The upper is inflexible and has a little padding. It's not quite as breathable as I'd like, but it's not terrible. There are a few seams, but they should not cause problems. I found there is not enough padding around the ankle opening, which can dig in painfully if you start to twist your ankle (a common issue with [[Maximalist]] shoes on trails.)
* '''Tongue'''. The Mafate has a tongue-less sock style of upper, but getting into the shoe is not as difficult as many shoes that use this approach. The tongue is quite thin and unpadded. The narrow speed laces didn't cause me a problem with the thin tongue, but it's something to be aware of when you try them.
* '''Lacing'''. The Mafate uses their speed lacing system, but you can replace it with normal laces. These speed laces are thin, with a plastic locking mechanism rather than being tied. This can make it quicker to lace up the shoes, but I generally find it harder to get the tension right.
* '''Heel counter'''. The Mafate has a moderate heel counter that's softer than I expected for such a large shoe. It's an external 'exoskeleton' approach that doesn't cause problems.
{{FastBlr|hoka-one-one/mafate-speed-1085|1085|Hoka One One Mafate Speed}}
=Mafate as a Trail Shoe=
The Mafate is one of the best shoes I've come across for multiple surfaces.
* It's quite at home when running on roads, as the lugs are soft enough that you're not really aware they are there.
* On the soft stuff, the lugs provide good grip for mud or grass. By the time things are soft enough that I start to doubt the lugs I was sinking far enough to worry more about having the mud suck the shoes off my feet (which happened once.)
* Over cobbles, the thick sole of the Mafate allow you to land on sharp points with impunity. On terrain where you'd have to pick your footing in thinner shoes you can hammer though with abandon.
* Where the Mafate really shines is on flat rock surfaces that so often prove treacherous. The [[RMAT]] outsole provides more grip than any other shoe I've tried, even on wet rocks.
I've been surprised by just how much confidence the Mafate gives you on pretty much any surface. Hoka are planning on introducing a hiking boot version of the Mafate, which I'm looking forward to in a big way if they can design one with a toe box for humans.
=Compared with the Earlier Mafate=
Hoka has made a number of changes between the original Mafate and the Mafate Speed. The update is rather mixed, with some improvements and some declines. Initially I preferred the original version, but this update has really grown on me.
* A large portion of the outsole is now made from the softer RMAT foam. The softness of the RMAT lugs does make them surprisingly sticky, so the new version has great grip on a wide variety of surfaces including even wet rock. They are also soft enough that the shoe works well on the road.
* The upper is thinner and has far fewer seams, but is less padded.
* The laces are now the Hoka "speed laces", which is probably why they added the "speed" suffix. You can use standard laces instead.
* The toe box seems slightly worse, as it's even narrower.
* The tongue is now attached to the upper, in a sock-style arrangement. This works a little better than the original.
* The latest version includes an optional thinner insole that reduces the cushioning by 3-4mm, but increases the internal room. This is a nice way of tweaking the fit of the shoe, rather like a [[Replacement Insoles| Replacement Insole]].
{| class="wikitable"
|- valign="top"
|[[File:Hoka-Mafate-Speed-top.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka Mafate Speed top]]
|[[File:Hoka-Mafate-Speed-bottom.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka Mafate Speed bottom]]
|[[File:Hoka-Mafate-Speed-inside.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka Mafate Speed inside]]
|[[File:Hoka-Mafate-Speed-outside.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka Mafate Speed outside]]
|- valign="top"
|[[File:Hoka-Mafate-2-Low-top.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka Mafate 2 Low top]]
|[[File:Hoka-Mafate-2-Low-outside.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka Mafate 2 Low outside]]
|}
=CharacteristicsCompared with the Hoka Clifton=* '''Why you'd buy it'''. You're after While the most cushioning available and want an aggressive outsole.* '''Cushioning'''. The Mafate has the highest level of more cushioning of any shoe I've tried, with the soft ride that [[Hoka of famous for. HoweverClifton]] is much lighter, the gap in cushioning between the Mafate and the other Hokas seems weight difference translates to have narrowed with the latest versionsreduced effort for running.* '''Drop'''. Hoka claim The Clifton will work quite well on rocky trails, but the Mafate is a 4mm drop, but I measured it as only 1mmfar superior trail shoe. I also measured the midsole as thicker than Hoka claimIf you're running on asphalt, so maybe they don't include then chose the lugs in their measurements. The Mafate has a less abrupt taper at the very front of the shoe than the BondiClifton, but not as gentle as the Altra Olympus. The very rear of the shoe is cut away slightly to create a rocker shape that's almost identical to the Bondi. The midsole wraps around the lower part of the foot for additional stabilitytrails or mixed use, offsetting some of the problems of a thick sole creating a stilt like instability, which Mafate is especially a problem with a sole as thick as thisbetter.* '''Structure'''. This shoe is made of a single type of foam. (There is mention of using {| class="wikitable"|- valign="top"|[[RMATFile:Hoka-Mafate-Speed-top.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka Mafate Speed top]] foam in the midsole, but I've seen no indication of that.)* '''Flexibility'''|[[File:Hoka-Mafate-Speed-bottom. The jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka Mafate has no real flexibility, but it's so thick it does deform a little. It's the least flexible shoe I've come across, and similar to a hiking boot. Speed bottom]]* '''Outsole'''. The Mafate has aggressive lugs for grip on soft surfaces, and some of these are made of hard, durable rubber. However, most of the outsole is made of the softer |[[RMAT]] foam, and I'm not sure how well this will wearFile:Hoka-Mafate-Speed-inside. In the pictures above, the hard rubber is black and the RMAT is red. You can see that jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka were concerned about the RMAT wearing as they added the harder rubber in the highest abrasion areas. The Mafate outsole is reasonably happy on roads, though I've found the outsole sometimes lacks grip on wet asphaltSpeed inside]]* '''Shape'''. The Mafate has the typical |[[File:Hoka shape, which includes a horribly constricted toe box. In fact, the -Mafate seems a little worse than most Hokas-Speed-outside. The jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka toe box tends to cause a distinctive pattern of blisters, so it's critical to Mafate Speed outside]]|- valign="top"|[[Shoe ModificationsFile:Hoka Clifton 2-top.JPG| cut open the toe box of any Hokasnone|thumb|200px|Hoka Clifton 2 top]].* '''Upper'''. The upper is thicker than most shoes, with several layers, but it's reasonably breathable and has few seams|[[File:Hoka Clifton 2-bottom. JPG|none|thumb|200px|Hoka Clifton 2 bottom]]* '''Tongue'''. The Mafate has a classic tongue rather than a tongue|[[File:Hoka Clifton 2-less sock style of upper. The tongue is quite thin and unpaddedinside.JPG|none|thumb|200px|Hoka Clifton 2 inside]]* '''Lacing'''|[[File:Hoka Clifton 2-outside. The Mafate uses their speed lacing system, but you can replace it with normal laces. These speed laces are thin plastic that uses a plastic locking mechanism rather than being tied. This can make it quicker to lace up the shoes, but I generally find it harder to get the tension right. * '''Heel counter'''. The Mafate has a moderate heel counter that's softer than I expected for such a large shoe. It's an external 'exoskeleton' approach that doesn't cause problems. {{BuyShoesJPG|none|RW=Tthumb|RRS=T200px|AZ=THoka Clifton 2 outside]]|ZP=T}}{{ShoeGraphsFastBlr|hoka-one-one/clifton-2-1062|1062|Hoka Clifton 2}}=Compared with Original Mafate=Hoka has made a number of changes between the original Mafate and the Mafate Speed. The update is rather mixed, with some improvements and some declines. Overall, I think I prefer the original version, but it's close.* A large portion of the outsole is now made from the softer RMAT foam.* The upper is thinner and has far fewer seams. * The laces are now the Hoka "speed laces", which is probably why they added the "speed" suffix. * The toe box seems slightly worse, as it's even narrower.
=Compared with Altra Olympus=
The [[Altra Olympus]] is much thinner, lighter, and more flexible than the Mafate. The Altra toe box is shaped for the human foot, and it's zero drop, which makes it better shoe. However the Olympus has nothing like the cushioning of the Mafate.
{| class=Compared with the Hoka Clifton"wikitable"|- valign="top"While the |[[File:Hoka-Mafate-Speed-top.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka Mafate has more cushioning, the Speed top]]|[[File:Hoka-Mafate-Speed-bottom.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka CliftonMafate Speed bottom]] is much lighter, and the weight difference translates to reduced effort for running|[[File:Hoka-Mafate-Speed-inside. The Clifton will work quite well on rocky trails, so unless you need the aggressive outsole for grip on soft terrain, I'd recommend the Clifton as a much better shoejpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka Mafate Speed inside]]|[[File:Hoka-Mafate-Speed-outside.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka Mafate Speed outside]]|- valign="top"|[[File:Altra-Olympus-top.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Altra Olympus top]] |[[File:Altra-Olympus-bottom.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Altra Olympus bottom]] |[[File:Altra-Olympus-inside.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Altra Olympus inside]] |[[File:Altra-Olympus-outside.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Altra Olympus outside]] |}{{FastBlr|altra/olympus-1079|1079|Altra Olympus}}=Compared with the Hoka Bondi/Stinson Lite=The [[Hoka Bondi]] and [[Hoka Stinson|Hoka Stinson Lite]] have nearly as much cushioning as the Mafate, but are a little lighter. If you want more cushioning than the Clifton, I'd suggest either the [[Hoka Bondi]] and or the [[Hoka Stinson|Hoka Stinson Lite]]. {| class=Gallery"wikitable"|- valign="top"|[[File:Hoka-Mafate-Speed-top.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka Mafate Speed top]]|[[File:Hoka-Mafate-Speed-bottom.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka Mafate Speed bottom]]|[[File:Hoka-Mafate-Speed-inside.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka Mafate Speed inside]]|[[File:Hoka-Mafate-Speed-outside.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka Mafate Speed outside]]{| class- valign="wikitabletop" |[[File:Hoka-Bondi-4-top.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka Bondi 4 top]]|[[File:Hoka-Bondi-4-bottom.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka Bondi 4 bottom]]|[[File:Hoka-Bondi-4-inside.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka Bondi 4 inside]]|[[File:Hoka-Bondi-4-outside.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka Bondi 4 outside]]
|- valign="top"
|[[File:OlyMafBonTopHoka-Stinson-Lite-top.JPGjpg|none|thumb|500px150px| The [[Altra OlympusHoka Stinson Lite top]], Mafate, and |[[File:Hoka Bondi]]-Stinson-Lite-bottom.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka Stinson Lite bottom]]|[[File:StinMafClifTopHoka-Stinson-Lite-outside.JPGjpg|none|thumb|500px150px|Hoka Stinson Lite outside]]|}{{FastBlr|hoka-one-one/bondi-4-1083|1083|Hoka One One Bondi 4}}{{FastBlr|hoka-one-one/stinson-lite-1086|1086| The Hoka One One Stinson Lite}}=Compared with the Asics GT 2000=I like to compare shoes against the [[Hoka StinsonAsics GT 2000]]as it represents the traditional running shoe, and the comparison may be useful if you're considering the Mafateinstead of a more conventional shoe. Like many shoes, the GT 2000 is over engineered and includes many things that go against [[Hoka CliftonThe Science of Running Shoes]]and are more likely to cause problems than solve them.The Mafate is thicker than the GT 2000, but the difference is mostly in the forefoot, as the Mafate is 10mm thicker there, but only 5mm thicker at the rear. However, the Mafate is much better cushioned, with a soft feeling that is a core part of a [[Maximalist]]shoe. The two shoes weigh nearly the same, so they'll slow you down by about the same amount. The Mafate has a far more aggressive outsole than the GT 2000. The Mafate has less drop than the GT 2000, but this is less noticeable when your weight is in the shoe. {| class="wikitable"
|- valign="top"
|[[File:OlyMafBonBackHoka-Mafate-Speed-top.JPGjpg|none|thumb|500px150px|The Altra Olympus, Hoka Mafate, and Bondi.Speed top]]|[[File:StinMafClifBackHoka-Mafate-Speed-bottom.JPGjpg|none|thumb|500px150px|Hoka Mafate Speed bottom]]| The [[Altra OlympusFile:Hoka-Mafate-Speed-inside.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka Mafate Speed inside]], Mafate, and |[[File:Hoka Bondi]]-Mafate-Speed-outside.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Hoka Mafate Speed outside]]
|- valign="top"
|[[File:MatateSoleAsics-GT2000-top.JPGjpg|none|thumb|500px150px| A view of the aggressive outsoleAsics GT2000 top]]|[[File:Asics-GT2000-bottom.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Asics GT2000 bottom]]|[[File:Asics-GT2000-inside.jpg|none|thumb|150px|Asics GT2000 inside]]|[[File:MafeteTongueAsics-GT2000-outside.JPGjpg|none|thumb|500px150px|Asics GT2000 outside]]|Close up }=Dissection Gallery=Here are some images of the dissection of the earlier version of the Mafate tongue, showing the extensive padding. ]]{| class="wikitable"
|- valign="top"
|[[File:MafeteDissect.JPG|none|thumb|500px|The Mafate [[Shoe Dissection| dissected]].]]
|[[File:HokaOrAltra.png|none|thumb|500px|Hoka, like most shoe makers, does not seem to have ever seen a human foot. ]]
|}
{{ShoeGraphs}}
=A Comparison with other Recommended Shoes=
{{:Shoes-include}}