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FatMax tested at five different intensities, between 55-95% of anaerobic threshold and showed similar levels of fat metabolised<ref name="k385"/>. This suggests that it's not worth being too focused on a specific intensity beyond going slow enough that you can keep going for a long time. | FatMax tested at five different intensities, between 55-95% of anaerobic threshold and showed similar levels of fat metabolised<ref name="k385"/>. This suggests that it's not worth being too focused on a specific intensity beyond going slow enough that you can keep going for a long time. | ||
=Measuring FatMax= | =Measuring FatMax= | ||
− | The best way to measure FatMax is using an incremental stress test while measuring oxygen consumption and carbon dioxide production to get respiratory exchange ratio. That's part of a standard [[VO2max|V̇O2max]] test, but not something that's easily or cheaply available to most runners. Another alternative is to look at [[Lactate]] levels. There is some correlation between the initial rise in Lactate and FatMax<ref name="a585"/>, and while not perfect, I think it's good enough. Lactate meters are becoming cheaper and more widely available, with the promise of continual lactate monitoring coming soon. The initial rise is Lactate is different what is normally meant by [[Lactate Threshold]], which is the transition from moderate to hard exercise (aerobic to anaerobic). This rise is sometimes | + | The best way to measure FatMax is using an incremental stress test while measuring oxygen consumption and carbon dioxide production to get respiratory exchange ratio. That's part of a standard [[VO2max|V̇O2max]] test, but not something that's easily or cheaply available to most runners. Another alternative is to look at [[Lactate]] levels. There is some correlation between the initial rise in Lactate and FatMax<ref name="a585"/>, and while not perfect, I think it's good enough. Lactate meters are becoming cheaper and more widely available, with the promise of continual lactate monitoring coming soon. The initial rise is Lactate is different from what is normally meant by [[Lactate Threshold]], which is the transition from moderate to hard exercise (aerobic to anaerobic). This initial rise is sometimes called the "First Lactate Turn Point" or "Aerobic Threshold". Definitions vary, with some studies using any rise from resting lactate levels, some using 0.5 or 1.0 rise from resting levels, or a fixed 2.0 level of lactate. |
[[File:Three Phase Model of Exercise.jpg|center|thumb|600px|A three phase (zone) model of exercise intensity<ref name="k156"/><ref name="e211"/>.]] | [[File:Three Phase Model of Exercise.jpg|center|thumb|600px|A three phase (zone) model of exercise intensity<ref name="k156"/><ref name="e211"/>.]] | ||
+ | A simple approach is to check if you're at or below FatMax is to recite the alphabet. If you have to take frequent breaths, say every 8 letters or less, then you're above FatMax. If you can recite the alphabet easily, then you could increase your effort until you fail, at which point you have a sense of your FatMax<ref name="talk test"/>. | ||
+ | There has been some interest in using Heart Rate Variability to calculate "DFA A1" (detrended fluctuation analysis alpha 1), but the evidence doesn't support this approach<ref name="DFA A1"/>. | ||
=The intensity gap= | =The intensity gap= | ||
The most obvious problem with FatMax training is that you have to train at a much lower intensity the most people are comfortable with. Some runners will struggle to even run with their heart rate low enough to be in FatMax. Runners may find that FatMax intensity falls into the gap between the lower intensity of walking and the higher intensity of running. It's often said that the most common problem in recreational runners is their easy runs aren't easy enough, and their hard runs aren't hard enough. The two problems are related in many runners, where their easy runs or too hard to allow them to fully recover and run hard on their hard days. | The most obvious problem with FatMax training is that you have to train at a much lower intensity the most people are comfortable with. Some runners will struggle to even run with their heart rate low enough to be in FatMax. Runners may find that FatMax intensity falls into the gap between the lower intensity of walking and the higher intensity of running. It's often said that the most common problem in recreational runners is their easy runs aren't easy enough, and their hard runs aren't hard enough. The two problems are related in many runners, where their easy runs or too hard to allow them to fully recover and run hard on their hard days. | ||
+ | =Heart Rate Drift and FatMax= | ||
+ | Prolonged exercise will result in an increased [[Heart Rate]] for a given effort (pace or power), something called [[Heart Rate Drift]]. This drift means that FatMax (as measured by VT1) occurs at a lower power output and a higher heart rate after 2 hours just below FatMax (90% of VT1)<ref name="f565"/>. This indicates that you may need to adjust your pace or power downwards during prolonged training, but also accept a rise in heart rate as well. | ||
=Practical Advice = | =Practical Advice = | ||
− | My practical advice is that FaxMax training is worthwhile, but don't get hung up on the exact intensity. Instead of looking at heart rate zones, simply ensure you go slow enough that you can keep it up longer without feeling exhausted. The pace should be slow enough you can hold a conversation, which seems to be one of the best intensity metrics, even now with so much available technology. How long will depend on your fitness, but longer is better. Decades ago, coaches recommended "2-3 weekly interval sessions, a weekly long run, and as much low intensity as you can handle<ref name="Bowerman"/>", which still seems to be true. | + | My practical advice is that FaxMax training is worthwhile, but don't get hung up on the exact intensity. Instead of looking at heart rate zones, simply ensure you go slow enough that you can keep it up longer without feeling exhausted. The pace should be slow enough you can hold a conversation, which seems to be one of the best intensity metrics, even now, with so much available technology. How long will depend on your fitness, but longer is better. Decades ago, coaches recommended "2-3 weekly interval sessions, a weekly long run, and as much low intensity as you can handle<ref name="Bowerman"/>", which still seems to be true. |
=Tangent – Maffetone's MAF Method= | =Tangent – Maffetone's MAF Method= | ||
Philip Maffetone developed his "Maximum Aerobic Function" or MAF method<ref name="uMAF"/>. While this is based on similar concepts to FatMax, it uses exercise intensity based on an assumed [[Maximum Heart Rate]], which isn't valid. Calculating your Maximum Heart Rate from your age is like calculating your weight from your height. There's a corelation between height and weight, but no one would think that calculating weight from your height makes sense. The MAF subtracts your age from 180, then modifies the result. So, if you're 21, your MAF heart rate would be 159. If your true max HR is 214, that 150 would be 74% of max HR, but if your true max HR is only 164, it would be 97%! (A study of elite athletes showed a range of max heart rates between 164 and 214<ref name="x643"/>.) | Philip Maffetone developed his "Maximum Aerobic Function" or MAF method<ref name="uMAF"/>. While this is based on similar concepts to FatMax, it uses exercise intensity based on an assumed [[Maximum Heart Rate]], which isn't valid. Calculating your Maximum Heart Rate from your age is like calculating your weight from your height. There's a corelation between height and weight, but no one would think that calculating weight from your height makes sense. The MAF subtracts your age from 180, then modifies the result. So, if you're 21, your MAF heart rate would be 159. If your true max HR is 214, that 150 would be 74% of max HR, but if your true max HR is only 164, it would be 97%! (A study of elite athletes showed a range of max heart rates between 164 and 214<ref name="x643"/>.) | ||
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<ref name="k156">Ronald K. Binder, Manfred Wonisch, Ugo Corra, Alain Cohen-Solal, Luc Vanhees, Hugo Saner, Jean-Paul Schmid, Methodological approach to the first and second lactate threshold in incremental cardiopulmonary exercise testing, European Journal of Cardiovascular Prevention & Rehabilitation, publisher Oxford University Press (OUP), volume 15, issue 6, 2008, ISSN [http://www.worldcat.org/issn/1741-8267 1741-8267], doi [http://dx.doi.org/10.1097/hjr.0b013e328304fed4 10.1097/hjr.0b013e328304fed4], free !!doi-access!!, pages 726–734</ref> | <ref name="k156">Ronald K. Binder, Manfred Wonisch, Ugo Corra, Alain Cohen-Solal, Luc Vanhees, Hugo Saner, Jean-Paul Schmid, Methodological approach to the first and second lactate threshold in incremental cardiopulmonary exercise testing, European Journal of Cardiovascular Prevention & Rehabilitation, publisher Oxford University Press (OUP), volume 15, issue 6, 2008, ISSN [http://www.worldcat.org/issn/1741-8267 1741-8267], doi [http://dx.doi.org/10.1097/hjr.0b013e328304fed4 10.1097/hjr.0b013e328304fed4], free !!doi-access!!, pages 726–734</ref> | ||
<ref name="e211">James S. Skinner, Thomas H. Mclellan, The Transition from Aerobic to Anaerobic Metabolism, Research Quarterly for Exercise and Sport, publisher Informa UK Limited, volume 51, issue 1, 1980, ISSN [http://www.worldcat.org/issn/0270-1367 0270-1367], doi [http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/02701367.1980.10609285 10.1080/02701367.1980.10609285], pages 234–248</ref> | <ref name="e211">James S. Skinner, Thomas H. Mclellan, The Transition from Aerobic to Anaerobic Metabolism, Research Quarterly for Exercise and Sport, publisher Informa UK Limited, volume 51, issue 1, 1980, ISSN [http://www.worldcat.org/issn/0270-1367 0270-1367], doi [http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/02701367.1980.10609285 10.1080/02701367.1980.10609285], pages 234–248</ref> | ||
+ | <ref name="talk test">The "Aerobic Threshold" (AeT) Explained For Cyclists, https://www.highnorth.co.uk/articles/aerobic-threshold-cycling, High North Performance !!website!!</ref> | ||
+ | <ref name="DFA A1">Updated view on HRV analysis during exercise and DFA alpha 1, https://www.marcoaltini.com/blog/updated-view-on-hrv-analysis-during-exercise-and-dfa-alpha-1, Marco Altini !!website!!, en !!language!!</ref> | ||
+ | <ref name="f565">Julian D. Stevenson, Andrew E. Kilding, Daniel J. Plews, Ed Maunder, Prolonged cycling reduces power output at the moderate-to-heavy intensity transition, European Journal of Applied Physiology, publisher Springer Science and Business Media LLC, volume 122, issue 12, date 2022-09-20, ISSN [http://www.worldcat.org/issn/1439-6319 1439-6319], doi [http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/s00421-022-05036-9 10.1007/s00421-022-05036-9], free !!doi-access!!, pages 2673–2682</ref> | ||
</references> | </references> |
Latest revision as of 09:28, 28 October 2024
Running slower for longer distances might provide a counterintuitive improvement in speed. A slower pace can stress your fat burning to the max, resulting in fitness improvements that are beneficial at a wide range of intensities. Most people do their Long Runs at a slower pace, often called "Long Slow Distance" (LSD). This page focuses on the slower pace, with the Long Run and The Science of the Long Run focused on the endurance aspects.
Contents
- 1 Introduction
- 2 FatMax varies between runners (a lot)
- 3 FatMax varies day to day
- 4 FatMax varies during a run
- 5 What Fat is being burned at FatMax?
- 6 FatMax and weight Loss
- 7 FatMax is similar over a broad range of intensities
- 8 Measuring FatMax
- 9 The intensity gap
- 10 Heart Rate Drift and FatMax
- 11 Practical Advice
- 12 Tangent – Maffetone's MAF Method
- 13 Tangent – Defining Intensity Levels
- 14 References
1 Introduction
It's counter intuitive that slower running would make you faster. However, there's good evidence that slower paced running improves fitness and speed. The mechanism behind this improvement is most likely that lower intensity stresses the fat burning processes. As exercise intensity increases from rest, fat burning rates increase to provide the energy. The percentage of calories from fat decreases with intensity, as the body uses more carbohydrate for fuel. This results in a peak fat burning occurring at a relatively low intensity. This peak is often called "FatMax" and is the intensity where the greatest benefit occurs. At FatMax, the metabolic pathways that burn fat working as hard as possible. This stress then improves the ability to burn fat. Even in relatively short races, there is some fat metabolism that contributes energy, and fat metabolism is critical for longer races such as the marathon. It seems likely that training at FatMax also improved oxygen delivery, which in turn improves overall performance at all intensities. So, is FatMax training the silver bullet, or is it too good to be true? Let's look at some of the issues.
2 FatMax varies between runners (a lot)
Research into FatMax has shown that the intensity that corresponds to maximum fat burning varies between different runners quite a lot. Depending on how you measure intensity, FatMax occurs in the range 36-62% of V̇O2max, 50-74% of Max HR, 20-50% of Watts at V̇O2max[1]. That's a huge variation between runners, and so far, there is no way of predicting why different individuals have particular values. The only option at the moment would be a laboratory test (maybe).
3 FatMax varies day to day
FatMax measured on one day is generally within 90% on other days[1]. While that's not a huge variation, it makes the value of a laboratory test rather lower than you might expect. That variation is more than enough to move you from one heart rate zone to another. Some of the day-to-day variation will depend on Glycogen stores and carbohydrate intake. The more carbohydrate you eat, and the more glycogen stores you have available, the more your body is willing to burn.
4 FatMax varies during a run
FatMax shifts during just an hour's exercise[2]. This has been shown in several experiments, where metabolism shifts to burning more fat as carbohydrate stores are depleted. This means that FatMax will occur at lower and lower intensities.
5 What Fat is being burned at FatMax?
The fat being burnt at FatMax isn't all body fat (adipose). A rough estimate is that about half of the fat is from intramuscular triglycerides, and the other half from body fat. If you look at the graphs below, you can see that plasma free fatty acids (FFA) have a maximum burn rate at quite a low intensity. Most of the FFA is probably from body fat, unless you're still digesting food which is providing fat into your blood stream. You can also see that the burn rate of FFA increases as exercise progresses, so the longer you go, the more body fat you burn as a percentage.
6 FatMax and weight Loss
Is FatMax good for weight loss? There's evidence that exercise overall might help modestly with weight loss, with some analysis finding High Intensity Interval Training more effective or similar to FatMax style lower intensity[5][6]. In the long term, exercise might help with weight loss, but it's no silver bullet[7]. To a large extent, it seems that appetite increases to match the energy expenditure of exercise. Personally, I suspect that the benefits of exercise on weight loss are motivational, with people motivated to keep their weight down to benefit their exercise. Alternatively, it could be that people who like to exercise are more likely to lose weight. Either way, I'd suggest using FatMax to improve fitness and health, rather than primarily for weight loss.
7 FatMax is similar over a broad range of intensities
FatMax tested at five different intensities, between 55-95% of anaerobic threshold and showed similar levels of fat metabolised[2]. This suggests that it's not worth being too focused on a specific intensity beyond going slow enough that you can keep going for a long time.
8 Measuring FatMax
The best way to measure FatMax is using an incremental stress test while measuring oxygen consumption and carbon dioxide production to get respiratory exchange ratio. That's part of a standard V̇O2max test, but not something that's easily or cheaply available to most runners. Another alternative is to look at Lactate levels. There is some correlation between the initial rise in Lactate and FatMax[8], and while not perfect, I think it's good enough. Lactate meters are becoming cheaper and more widely available, with the promise of continual lactate monitoring coming soon. The initial rise is Lactate is different from what is normally meant by Lactate Threshold, which is the transition from moderate to hard exercise (aerobic to anaerobic). This initial rise is sometimes called the "First Lactate Turn Point" or "Aerobic Threshold". Definitions vary, with some studies using any rise from resting lactate levels, some using 0.5 or 1.0 rise from resting levels, or a fixed 2.0 level of lactate.
A simple approach is to check if you're at or below FatMax is to recite the alphabet. If you have to take frequent breaths, say every 8 letters or less, then you're above FatMax. If you can recite the alphabet easily, then you could increase your effort until you fail, at which point you have a sense of your FatMax[11]. There has been some interest in using Heart Rate Variability to calculate "DFA A1" (detrended fluctuation analysis alpha 1), but the evidence doesn't support this approach[12].
9 The intensity gap
The most obvious problem with FatMax training is that you have to train at a much lower intensity the most people are comfortable with. Some runners will struggle to even run with their heart rate low enough to be in FatMax. Runners may find that FatMax intensity falls into the gap between the lower intensity of walking and the higher intensity of running. It's often said that the most common problem in recreational runners is their easy runs aren't easy enough, and their hard runs aren't hard enough. The two problems are related in many runners, where their easy runs or too hard to allow them to fully recover and run hard on their hard days.
10 Heart Rate Drift and FatMax
Prolonged exercise will result in an increased Heart Rate for a given effort (pace or power), something called Heart Rate Drift. This drift means that FatMax (as measured by VT1) occurs at a lower power output and a higher heart rate after 2 hours just below FatMax (90% of VT1)[13]. This indicates that you may need to adjust your pace or power downwards during prolonged training, but also accept a rise in heart rate as well.
11 Practical Advice
My practical advice is that FaxMax training is worthwhile, but don't get hung up on the exact intensity. Instead of looking at heart rate zones, simply ensure you go slow enough that you can keep it up longer without feeling exhausted. The pace should be slow enough you can hold a conversation, which seems to be one of the best intensity metrics, even now, with so much available technology. How long will depend on your fitness, but longer is better. Decades ago, coaches recommended "2-3 weekly interval sessions, a weekly long run, and as much low intensity as you can handle[14]", which still seems to be true.
12 Tangent – Maffetone's MAF Method
Philip Maffetone developed his "Maximum Aerobic Function" or MAF method[15]. While this is based on similar concepts to FatMax, it uses exercise intensity based on an assumed Maximum Heart Rate, which isn't valid. Calculating your Maximum Heart Rate from your age is like calculating your weight from your height. There's a corelation between height and weight, but no one would think that calculating weight from your height makes sense. The MAF subtracts your age from 180, then modifies the result. So, if you're 21, your MAF heart rate would be 159. If your true max HR is 214, that 150 would be 74% of max HR, but if your true max HR is only 164, it would be 97%! (A study of elite athletes showed a range of max heart rates between 164 and 214[16].)
13 Tangent – Defining Intensity Levels
When reading any research into FatMax, it's worth noting that studies typically define intensity as a percentage of V̇O2max. That's fine in a lab but doesn't help much in the real world. Often a percent of V̇O2max is assumed to be the same percentage of Heart Rate, but that's not quite true. To convert from %V̇O2max to %HR isn't a simple one and doesn't work the same for all people. Really, we need to use a percentage of the reserve capacity[17]. The well-known Heart Rate Reserve has a parallel with V̇O2max Reserve. If you can reasonably convert from a percentage of one reserve to the other. But too few research papers use the reserve numbers. Hopefully, this will change over time.
14 References
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 T. Meyer, C. Folz, F. Rosenberger, W. Kindermann, The Reliability of FatMax, Scandinavian Journal of Medicine & Science in Sports, volume 19, issue 2, date 2009, ISSN 0905-7188, doi 10.1111/j.1600-0838.2008.00775.x, pages 213–221
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 Tim Meyer, Nina Gäßler, Wilfried Kindermann, Determination of "FatMax " with 1 h cycling protocols of constant load, Applied Physiology, Nutrition, and Metabolism, volume 32, issue 2, date 2007, ISSN 1715-5312, doi 10.1139/h06-108, pages 249–256
- ↑ 3.0 3.1 Regulation of endogenous fat and carbohydrate metabolism in relation to exercise intensity and duration http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/265/3/E380.short</ref> <ref name="LoonGreenhaff2001">Luc J. C. van Loon, Paul L. Greenhaff, D. Constantin-Teodosiu, Wim H. M. Saris, Anton J. M. Wagenmakers, The effects of increasing exercise intensity on muscle fuel utilisation in humans, The Journal of Physiology, volume 536, issue 1, 2001, pages 295–304, ISSN 0022-3751, doi 10.1111/j.1469-7793.2001.00295.x
- ↑ Luc J. C. van Loon, Paul L. Greenhaff, D. Constantin-Teodosiu, Wim H. M. Saris, Anton J. M. Wagenmakers, The effects of increasing exercise intensity on muscle fuel utilisation in humans, The Journal of Physiology, volume 536, issue 1, 2001, pages 295–304, ISSN 0022-3751, doi 10.1111/j.1469-7793.2001.00295.x
- ↑ Alice Bellicha, Marleen A. van Baak, Francesca Battista, Kristine Beaulieu, John E. Blundell, Luca Busetto, Eliana V. Carraça, Dror Dicker, Jorge Encantado, Andrea Ermolao, Nathalie Farpour‐Lambert, Adriyan Pramono, Euan Woodward, Jean‐Michel Oppert, Effect of exercise training on weight loss, body composition changes, and weight maintenance in adults with overweight or obesity: An overview of 12 systematic reviews and 149 studies, Obesity Reviews, volume 22, issue S4, date 2021, ISSN 1467-7881, PMID 33955140, 8365736 !!pmc!!, doi 10.1111/obr.13256
- ↑ Grainne O'Donoghue, Catherine Blake, Caitriona Cunningham, Olive Lennon, Carla Perrotta, What exercise prescription is optimal to improve body composition and cardiorespiratory fitness in adults living with obesity? A network meta‐analysis, Obesity Reviews, volume 22, issue 2, date 2021, ISSN 1467-7881, PMID 32896055, 7900983 !!pmc!!, doi 10.1111/obr.13137
- ↑ T. Wu, X. Gao, M. Chen, R. M. Van Dam, Long‐term effectiveness of diet‐plus‐exercise interventions vs. diet‐only interventions for weight loss: a meta‐analysis, Obesity Reviews, volume 10, issue 3, date 2009, ISSN 1467-7881, doi 10.1111/j.1467-789X.2008.00547.x, pages 313–323
- ↑ Carlo Ferri Marini, Philippe Tadger, Isaac Armando Chávez-Guevara, Elizabeth Tipton, Marco Meucci, Zoran Nikolovski, Francisco Jose Amaro-Gahete, Ratko Peric, Factors Determining the Agreement between Aerobic Threshold and Point of Maximal Fat Oxidation: Follow-Up on a Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis on Association, International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health, publisher MDPI AG, volume 20, issue 1, date 2022-12-27, ISSN 1660-4601, doi 10.3390/ijerph20010453, free !!doi-access!!, page 453
- ↑ Ronald K. Binder, Manfred Wonisch, Ugo Corra, Alain Cohen-Solal, Luc Vanhees, Hugo Saner, Jean-Paul Schmid, Methodological approach to the first and second lactate threshold in incremental cardiopulmonary exercise testing, European Journal of Cardiovascular Prevention & Rehabilitation, publisher Oxford University Press (OUP), volume 15, issue 6, 2008, ISSN 1741-8267, doi 10.1097/hjr.0b013e328304fed4, free !!doi-access!!, pages 726–734
- ↑ James S. Skinner, Thomas H. Mclellan, The Transition from Aerobic to Anaerobic Metabolism, Research Quarterly for Exercise and Sport, publisher Informa UK Limited, volume 51, issue 1, 1980, ISSN 0270-1367, doi 10.1080/02701367.1980.10609285, pages 234–248
- ↑ The "Aerobic Threshold" (AeT) Explained For Cyclists, https://www.highnorth.co.uk/articles/aerobic-threshold-cycling, High North Performance !!website!!
- ↑ Updated view on HRV analysis during exercise and DFA alpha 1, https://www.marcoaltini.com/blog/updated-view-on-hrv-analysis-during-exercise-and-dfa-alpha-1, Marco Altini !!website!!, en !!language!!
- ↑ Julian D. Stevenson, Andrew E. Kilding, Daniel J. Plews, Ed Maunder, Prolonged cycling reduces power output at the moderate-to-heavy intensity transition, European Journal of Applied Physiology, publisher Springer Science and Business Media LLC, volume 122, issue 12, date 2022-09-20, ISSN 1439-6319, doi 10.1007/s00421-022-05036-9, free !!doi-access!!, pages 2673–2682
- ↑ William J. Bowerman, Bill Bowerman's high-performance training for track and field, William Hardin Freeman, William J. Bowerman, date 2009, publisher Coaches Choice, isbn 978-1-60679-031-1, 3rd ed !!edition!!, location Monterey, CA
- ↑ Dr. Phil Maffetone, The MAF 180 Formula: Heart-rate monitoring for real aerobic training., Dr. Phil Maffetone !!website!!, date 2015-05-06, https://philmaffetone.com/180-formula/, 2024-05-16 !!access-date!!
- ↑ G. Whyte, K. George, R. Shave, N. Middleton, A. Nevill, Training Induced Changes in Maximum Heart Rate, International Journal of Sports Medicine, volume 29, issue 2, date 2008, ISSN 0172-4622, doi 10.1055/s-2007-965783, pages 129–133
- ↑ Joseph Lounana, Frederic Campion, Timothy D. Noakes, Jean Medelli, Relationship between %HRmax, %HR Reserve, %V˙O2max, and %V˙O2 Reserve in Elite Cyclists, Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise, volume 39, issue 2, date 2007, ISSN 0195-9131, doi 10.1249/01.mss.0000246996.63976.5f, pages 350–357